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Re: AW: Using the SignWriting Thin Viewer bookmark on iOS

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MARIA GALEA <[log in to unmask]>

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SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages

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Tue, 9 Apr 2013 11:15:12 +0200

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Thank you Steve, Valerie and Stefan for your messages and explanations - I
think I understand a little better now.

So could i send an email using the FSW code - and then the SignWriting
would show up? I'm trying to think of a way that I can try it out, because
I grasp things when I try them out. If not possible, your explanations
will suffice for now.

thank you again!
maria

> SignWriting List
> April 8, 2013
>
> Hello Steve, Stefan and Maria -
> Thank you for this discussion…And thank you, Steve, for your excellent
> explanation below…
>
> Maybe this will help…I will explain it from my "non-computer-programmer"
> perspective…
>
> 1. Underneath the visual world we see on computer screens, is a bunch of
> source code, based on 0s and 1s, that I have no clue how they work! But by
> some miracle I use computers everyday, and computers are a blessing for
> all of us…but there is source code hidden underneath what we see. While I
> am typing this message, there is source code that is helping me do it, yet
> I never see it…
>
> 2. When we write SignWriting in SignPuddle, or in Delegs Software, or in
> SignWriter Studio, there is source code underneath the visual SignWriting
> symbols. I know the source code is there, but I never have to think about
> it, because I can live and breath inside the beautiful visual world of
> SignWriting and sign languages…
>
> 3. Steve has developed the source code to make this possible, which he
> calls FSW, for Formal SignWriting, and if you saw the source code for a
> SignWriting text you would be amazed…you can see it anytime….Go to a
> SignPuddle document, and clicking on the FSW link at the bottom of the
> document - and there you can see the underlying sources, that are like
> long strings of letters and numbers and so forth -
>
> 4. Up until this new development, the only software that could read those
> FSW sources were software programs specially designed for SignWriting,
> like SignPuddle or Delegs, but now with this new development called the
> SignWriting Thin Viewer, which is a plugin that can be installed on web
> pages and can also be used in the Bookmarks of your web browser…now if you
> see some of that FSW code but cannot see what the SignWriting looks like,
> because you are outside our specialized software, you can use the SW Thin
> Viewer to see what the SignWriting really looks like, and you are not
> using SignPuddle or Delegs, but other web sites! For the first time, we
> are "stepping out" of our own specially designed environments and using
> SignWriting in the general world.
>
> 5. Let me give you an example…I create web pages using HTML by using a
> program called DreamWeaver. Before now, for me to place some SignWriting
> from SignPuddle onto my new web page, I would have to go into SignPuddle
> and click on the ColumnMaker button and format the column and then save it
> as an SVG-PNG, and then bring it into my web design as a graphic file… but
> now, with the new SW Thin Viewer plugin, I can instead paste the plugin
> source on the header of my new web page, and then I don't have to create a
> graphic of the SignWriting any longer - I can bypass ColumnMaker and just
> grab the FSW code and paste it into my new web page and save the page and
> when I post it on the web, it will show up as real SignWriting instead of
> the FSW code - so it bypassed my having to create a graphic of the file -
>
> This has a great future for iPhones too - and for iPads - there is much to
> explain but there are no worries either - because we can still work just
> as we have before and no one is forcing us to change anything - just new
> opportunities - smile -
>
> Val ;-)
>
> ------
>
> On Apr 8, 2013, at 12:22 PM, Stephen E Slevinski Jr
> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> On 4/8/13 3:04 AM, MARIA GALEA wrote:
>>> Dear Steve,
>>> Well done for the accomplishment - however all this information is just
>>> an
>>> unknown language for me since my programming skills are non-existent.
>>> Do
>>> you think you could somehow simplify what is going on.
>>>
>>
>> On 4/8/13 7:58 AM, Stefan Wöhrmann wrote:
>>> Hi Maria,
>>>
>>> this is exactly what has been on my mind. I would love to estimate what
>>> is
>>> going on but I do not understand ... Will this accomplichment change
>>> anything in the way I am using SignWriting with SignPuddle or the
>>> delegs-software?
>>>
>>> Thanks for your message!
>>>
>>> All best
>>>
>>> Stefan
>>>
>>
>> Hi Stefan & Maria,
>>
>> Thanks for your patience and interest.
>>
>> When reading SignWriting, we want to see the signs like...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> However, that is a graphic. The real name of each sign is a string.
>>
>> If we use ASCII, the text is:
>> M518x529S14c20481x471S27106503x489
>> M523x536S2eb48485x504S10011502x463S2eb04507x497S10019477x472
>>
>> Unicode without a font (image)
>>
>>
>> Unicode without a font (characters)
>> 󽠃󽼒󽼝󽡼󽠒󽠠󽻭󽻣󽦡󽠐󽠦󽼃󽻵 󽠃󽼗󽼤󽨛󽠔󽠨󽻱󽼄󽠰󽠑󽠡󽼂󽻛󽨛󽠐󽠤󽼇󽻽󽠰󽠑󽠩󽻩󽻤
>>
>> Unicode with a local font:
>> screen capture from SignPuddle.com
>> with Graphite enabled in Firefox.
>> http://signpuddle.com/#font
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Formal SignWriting
>> ============
>> Until the SignWriting font is perfected, we will be using Formal
>> SignWriting as the ASCII codes.
>>
>> Here is what Formal SignWriting looks like:
>> M518x529S14c20481x471S27106503x489
>> M518x533S1870a489x515S18701482x490S20500508x496S2e734500x468
>> S38800464x496
>>
>> The word "Formal" is used in the technical sense of a "Formal language".
>> It basically means each word is formed as a string of characters.
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formal_language
>>
>>
>> The Plugin
>> =======
>> The plugin basically takes the ASCII string and wraps it for
>> presentation. This first plugin works for web pages and HTML documents.
>> The writers must still deal with the FSW, but the reader is shown the
>> SignWriting images.
>>
>> Please view SignPuddle.com without the plugin enabled.
>> http://signpuddle.com/index2.html
>>
>> Notice the Formal SignWriting strings. If you have the SignWriting Thin
>> Viewer bookmark ready, you can run the plugin in your browser to show
>> the SignWriting instead of the Formal SignWriting.
>>
>> Now view SignPuddle.com with the plugin enabled.
>> http://signpuddle.com/index.html
>>
>> The purpose of the plugin is to replace the Formal SignWriting strings
>> and display the SignWriting.
>>
>> If the web site includes the SignWriting Thin Viewer, you will see the
>> SignWriting:
>> http://signpuddle.com/index.html
>>
>> If the web site does not use the SignWriting Thin Viewer, you will see
>> the Formal SignWriting ASCII strings. It is here that you can use the
>> bookmark.
>>