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SignWriting List April 13, 2010 And thanks to Adam too ;-)) And thanks to Kevin at Valencia Community College - our List software is starting to work better - Kevin is working on it. It turns out that our old List was located on a server that was starting to burn out, and there was no choice but to move all five Lists to another server...so we are fortunate that our 5 Lists were saved... The spam has been stopped as far as I can see, but our Archives are not available yet...They are in the process of being moved, but slowly we will have all our features back again - Enjoy your day everyone! Val ;-) ----------- On Apr 13, 2010, at 9:30 AM, Kimberley Shaw wrote: > Hello Suzanne: > thank you so much! Those are exactly the other versions I'd seen. Our > director will be very happy with all this information. > Thank you, Charles, Val, and Suzanne for making it happen. > Best, > Kim > > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Suzanne pach <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I have just added two other versions of Mother that I >> think I have seen. They might be more 'mum-like' compared >> to the letter M one, but I'm not sure. >> >> Suzanne >> >>> I don't know BSL, these two were the signs that were >>> given, which is straight off the two-handed alphabet. I >>> am not fluent in BSL and don't have access to BSL tapes. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Kimberley Shaw <[log in to unmask]> >>> To: [log in to unmask] >>> Sent: Tue, April 13, 2010 11:21:56 AM >>> Subject: Re: Seeking speaker of BSL >>> >>> Hi Charles: >>> yep, that looks like the handshape I saw for the >>> more-casual term >>> "Mum" (as well as a variation where the same handshape >>> taps your head >>> at the right temple). Thank you for putting it into >>> Puddle! >>> Will "Mother" be getting into Puddle too? Or is that one >>> up to me/others? >>> -- Kim >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Charles Butler >>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>> I just put Mum in, it's just there as Mum, not Mother >>>> ________________________________ >>>> From: Kimberley Shaw <[log in to unmask]> >>>> To: [log in to unmask] >>>> Sent: Tue, April 13, 2010 10:04:30 AM >>>> Subject: Re: Seeking speaker of BSL >>>> >>>> Hi Charles: >>>> great! >>>> I can see that "Dad" is now in the BSL Puddle, as well >>>> as "Father". >>>> But not (yet) Mother/Mum ... >>>> Hey, what if I send a cellphone picture of my >>>> handwritten SW of these >>>> signs to Charles to transcribe ... and/or anyone else >>>> who's game? >>>> Best, >>>> Kim >>>> >>>> On 4/13/10, Charles Butler <[log in to unmask]> >>>> wrote: >>>>> Hi Val, Kim, and Suzanne, I have loaded the alternate >>>>> meanings of the two >>>>> alphabetic signs into the UK sign puddle. >>>>> >>>>> Charles Butler >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> From: Kimberley Shaw <[log in to unmask]> >>>>> To: [log in to unmask] >>>>> Sent: Tue, April 13, 2010 9:48:48 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: Seeking speaker of BSL >>>>> >>>>> Hi Val and all: >>>>> tomorrow, I hope to grab time to SW these for the BSL >>>>> puddle! Am >>>>> typing from my phone at the moment. >>>>> Best, >>>>> Kim >>>>> >>>>> On 4/12/10, SignWriting <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>>>> SignWriting List >>>>>> April 12, 2010 >>>>>> >>>>>> Suzanne and Kim - >>>>>> Can you write the signs you are discussing in >>>>>> SignWriting and post them >>>>>> to >>>>>> the List? I have no idea how to sign or write them and >>>>>> I would love to >>>>>> see >>>>>> the signs written - >>>>>> >>>>>> Val ;-) >>>>>> >>>>>> ------- >>>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 12, 2010, at 2:30 PM, Kimberley Shaw wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you, Suzanne! This does give me a good reason >>>>>>> to learn the >>>>>>> 2-handed alphabet, which is so different from the ASL >>>>>>> (and LSF) one. >>>>>>> However, since the director asked for translation of >>>>>>> "mom" and "dad", >>>>>>> rather than "mother" and "father", does BSL make this >>>>>>> distinction? ASL >>>>>>> does - although the difference between the more >>>>>>> formal and more casual >>>>>>> signs can be subtle to new signers. >>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>> Kim >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 4/12/10, Suzanne pach <[log in to unmask]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi Kim, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mother and Father are usually signed as the letters >>>>>>>> M and >>>>>>>> F of the BSL-alphabet (which can be found in the BSL >>>>>>>> SignPuddle). And have have seen Dad being signed as >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> letter D. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Good luck! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Suzanne >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you, Val! >>>>>>>>> I'll forward these links to the director. It would >>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>> weird >>>>>>>>> transcribing anything that's in a signed language I >>>>>>>>> don't >>>>>>>>> know ... but >>>>>>>>> I'll give it a go, and will trust in the power if >>>>>>>>> wiki >>>>>>>>> that if I get >>>>>>>>> it very wrong, some BSL speaker will improve on it. >>>>>>>>> :) >>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>> Kim >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 4/12/10, SignWriting <[log in to unmask]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> SignWriting List >>>>>>>>>> April 12, 2010 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hello Kim! >>>>>>>>>> I am not a BSL signer, however, on the web, there >>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>> video dictionaries. >>>>>>>>>> For example, if you visit this site: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.signstation.org/signstation_dictionary/showUserHomePage.do >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.signstation.org/dictionaries.shtml >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> you can find signs in BSL... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> but they require that you register...but it is >>>>>>>>>> free I >>>>>>>>>> believe - I would >>>>>>>>>> assume they have the signs you need, and then it >>>>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>>>> be great if you would >>>>>>>>>> write them in the BSL SignPuddle for us! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Good luck with your project! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Val ;-) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> --------- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Apr 12, 2010, at 10:27 AM, Kimberley Shaw >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hello all: >>>>>>>>>>> the director of a play on my campus needs to >>>>>>>>>>> know, and >>>>>>>>>>> quite soon: >>>>>>>>>>> how do you sign "mom" and "dad" in BSL? I see >>>>>>>>>>> "father" >>>>>>>>>>> in the BLS >>>>>>>>>>> puddle, but not "mother", and don't know how much >>>>>>>>>>> different from >>>>>>>>>>> either of those the more casual mom/dad would be. >>>>>>>>>>> If someone can add these to Puddle quickly, the >>>>>>>>>>> actors >>>>>>>>>>> and director >>>>>>>>>>> would be very, very glad! >>>>>>>>>>> Best of luck with the email migration, a very big >>>>>>>>>>> change, that ... >>>>>>>>>>> Kim from Boston >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> >