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Hi again Val, I have a soft-spot for Document Maker because we produced quite a lot of long documents with it and the work looks very nice and presentable :) It's a great program especially the ease it has to simply drag and drop columns straight from Puddle. I actually do have Skype now - well it's installed because we had some friends from the US over with us and they used it once to phone back home - only i don't know how to use it yet. I'll see if I can at least purchase the Adobe Acrobat Professional - because that would be useful for all pdf files. I'll keep working for now in Microsoft Word. It would be good to talk one day through skype - or do you think we might find a solution to printing A5 paper in DocumentMaker if we talk, because if you think it might help I could make that little effort and learn how to use skype. Thanks again for your help. Maria > SignWriting List > June 10, 2010 > > Hello Maria and Everyone! > It is really nice to know that you LOVE DocumentMaker, Maria. I do too. > Thank you for this message. > > Of course I am sorry to hear of your printing frustrations. I share the > same frustrations with you. I just contacted our SignBank and > DocumentMaker programmer, Todd Duell, and we will be meeting in July to > try to solve these problems, and also to update SignBank in general, to > use the ISWA 2010 symbols. Funding for this is a problem for us right now, > but I have a month to try to find some funds to make this possible. > > Meanwhile, it could not hurt for you to save your own funds to purchase > one of these products: > > Adobe InDesign > and/or > Adobe Acrobat Professional > > Do you own the professional version of Adobe Acrobat? Not the free Adobe > Acrobat Reader, but the Professional version of Acrobat? The reason that > could help you is that once you get a PDF document from DocumentMaker, if > you can create a PDF, then you can open the PDF document in Acrobat > Professional, and print from there, and Acrobat Pro has a more > sophisticated printer driver I believe, to let you print PDFs in different > formats... > > Another thought - Do you have Skype, Maria? It doesn't matter if you do > not have a video camera...we could just talk on Skype like a voice phone. > And that is a free telephone call. If we can get Skype to work for us, > over Skype I can walk you through different ways to try to solve your > problem right now...and you never know - maybe we can find the solution > together - > > So write to me privately if you want to work on Skype together - > > Val ;-) > > --------- > > > > On Jun 10, 2010, at 1:15 AM, MARIA AZZOPARDI wrote: > >> Dear Valerie, >> I've followed your instructions step by step, but I can't re-scale in >> DocumentMaker and print it directly. In fact when I'm using Document >> Maker, I don't have the option of 'Page Setup' only 'Print Setup'. >> >> I've spent quite some time now trying different ways of making this >> happen >> (trying to change settings in my Printer Driver, using Word Pad), and >> the >> only way i can print A5 is by previewing the pdf file, copying each page >> separately and pasting into Word. However, even this is not ideal, >> because >> when i do so the resolution of the SignWriting is not as good as it is >> when you print directly from Document Maker. >> >> The only solution I see right now is to use Word Document. It would be >> good to have Adobe InDesign, but we don't have the funds for it. I'd >> rather not use the trial for a month, because I need something I can use >> long-term. >> >> Yes, I LOVE DocumentMaker because the work looks so neat! I can't make >> the >> signwriting look so neat when I use Word. AdobeInDesign seems to work >> best >> - The Gospel of John is also a beautiful piece of print work - and i >> believe you used AdobeInDesign for this - so I can see it's great. >> >> Thanks for your help Valerie - I SO understand that there are no funds >> to >> improve Document Maker - and in truth I guess if other programs (such as >> Adobe) work just as well as an improved version of Document Maker, then >> it's best to use your resources elsewhere - rather than work on a >> creating >> a program that, in a way already exists. >> >> Thanks again, >> maria >> >> >>> SignWriting List >>> June 9, 2010 >>> >>> Hello Maria! >>> Please see my answer below... >>> >>> ---------- >>> >>> On Jun 9, 2010, at 2:12 AM, MARIA AZZOPARDI wrote: >>>> I must have asked this question back in 2008. I'm trying to use >>>> Document >>>> Maker again, and am finding it impossible to print on paper size A5. I >>>> tried to locate the answers to my question asked back then from the >>>> Archives - but can't find them. I would appreciate some help with >>>> printing >>>> paper size A5 from Document Maker. >>>> >>>> So far I go I do this: click on File - Print Setup - i change paper >>>> size >>>> to A5, then i click on properties to make sure paper size is set to >>>> A5, >>>> then i click ok, ok..but then the print comes out on A5 paper but not >>>> to >>>> scale - that is, it just fits what it can on an A5 paper rather then >>>> rescale the A4 size to fit an A5 paper - >>>> >>>> am i doing something wrong? >>>> >>>> thanks >>>> Maria >>>> >>> >>> -------------------- >>> >>> I am happy you like DocumentMaker, Maria. I only wish I had the funds >>> to >>> fix the software a bit, so it worked better for both of us... >>> >>> You need to use "scale" and reduce the document to 50 per cent or 75 >>> per >>> cent or whatever size is needed to reduce it to fit A5... >>> >>> And a lot depends on your computer's printer driver because the Scale >>> feature is in different places depending on your computer...Here are >>> some >>> suggestions... >>> >>> 1. Under Scripts menu at the top inside DocumentMaker, choose Print A4 >>> rather than Print US Letter. Even though you do not want A4, and you >>> want >>> A5, at least A4 is a European paper size. This is more important than >>> you >>> can guess...here is a screen capture: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> 2. Once you have chosen A4, do your work. And before you print your >>> document, choose Page Setup if you have that choice on your computer. >>> Here >>> is a screen capture of my Page Setup on my Mac. You can see I chose A6 >>> at >>> 50% scale. It may be that on your computer, with your printer drivers >>> and >>> Page Setup, you can choose A5. I hope so. And try to find the place >>> where >>> you can type in 50% or 75 % or whatever scale works for your printer - >>> you >>> may have to experiment a little to find the exact scale percentage you >>> need...If this doesn't work I do not know what to tell you, i am >>> sorry... >>> >>> See attached screen capture... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> 3. If you have ongoing problems, I suggest using Adobe InDesign...I use >>> Adobe InDesign, and it is such a sophisticated program that it provides >>> excellent ways to export to PDF in all sizes and then you can print >>> from >>> the PDF, or print directly from their fancy printer drivers..They have >>> spent a fortune on software development and for that reason, their >>> features are more comprehensive... >>> >>> Someday I promise to update and improve DocumentMaker because I love >>> the >>> program and want it to work well for all of us - >>> >>> If you cannot afford Adobe InDesign, which is an expensive program, you >>> can download a free month of use I believe, a trial version, on >>> Adobe.com... >>> >>> Keep us informed how it goes - if you can figure out how to scale a >>> document in your printer driver, you might be able to use DocumentMaker >>> - >>> I hope so! >>> >>> Val ;-) >> > > >