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SignWriting List August 7, 2010 Hello Ms Byerly - Thank you for this message. To unsubscribe from the SignWriting List, go to: http://listserv.valenciacc.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1 Write in your email address, and scroll down and click on ...Leave SW-L... button Then you will need to reply to an email message asking you for confirmation... Thanks for being with us! Val ;-) ------------- On Aug 7, 2010, at 10:48 AM, Byerly, Lisa wrote: > Thank you. Ms. Byerly > > > On Mon, July 5, 2010 11:00 pm, SW-L automatic digest system wrote: > > There is 1 message totalling 98 lines in this issue. > > > > Topics of the day: > > > > 1. finger direction matters > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 11:19:03 +0200 > > From: Ingvild Roald > > Subject: Re: finger direction matters > > > > --_5be3a1f1-eba4-4790-8288-53ed1fd8c9a5_ > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > charset=iso-8859-1 > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > > > In the MOVEMENT sign=2C both hands are turned the same way. Is that correct= > > ? Do the hands turn a little sideways when they move? Or should they both b= > > e pointed towards center and just move sideways? If you do not know the act= > > ual sign language=2C you do not know how to read this (but then=2C this wil= > > l be the case when signwriting is more used and standards for each sign lan= > > guage are stabilising themselves ... the rules will differ somewhat accordi= > > ng to the sign languages). > > > > Ingvild=20 > > > > > > > > > >> Date: Thu=2C 1 Jul 2010 21:21:41 -0700 > >> From: [log in to unmask] > >> Subject: finger direction matters > >> To: [log in to unmask] > >>=20 > >> SignWriting List > >> July 1st=2C 2010 > >>=20 > >> I would also like to point out that if one looks at documents written aro= > > und the world=2C that writers tend to follow the direction of the fingers. = > > Here is an example. I have seen this handshape written both ways=2C and I f= > > eel both are readable=2C because when the handshape is parallel to the floo= > > r=2C there is the small space or break at the fingers to tell us that=2C an= > > d the black back of the hand tells us that we are viewing the back of the h= > > and parallel to the floor. So either handshape in the attached diagram can = > > be read. But the writing of the fingers directed down seems logical and the= > > most visual for me...and I tend to write it that way. Like in the sign for= > > MOVEMENT attached. Finger direction is important for reading signs quickl= > > y because meaning is held in the finger direction...so writing it as close = > > to the way it looks in real life is important: > >>=20 > > = > > > > --_5be3a1f1-eba4-4790-8288-53ed1fd8c9a5_ > > Content-Type: text/html; > > charset=iso-8859-1 > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the MOVEMENT sign=2C both hands are turned the same way. Is that correct= > > ? Do the hands turn a little sideways when they move? Or should they both b= > > e pointed towards center and just move sideways? If you do not know the act= > > ual sign language=2C you do not know how to read this (but then=2C this wil= > > l be the case when signwriting is more used and standards for each sign lan= > > guage are stabilising themselves ... the rules will differ somewhat accordi= > > ng to the sign languages). > > Ingvild=20 > > > > > > >=3B Date: Thu=2C 1 Jul 2010 21:21:41 -0700 > >=3B Fro= > > m: [log in to unmask] > >=3B Subject: finger direction matters > &g= > > t=3B To: [log in to unmask] > >=3B > >=3B SignWriting List= > > > >=3B July 1st=2C 2010 > >=3B > >=3B I would also like to point= > > out that if one looks at documents written around the world=2C that writer= > > s tend to follow the direction of the fingers. Here is an example. I have s= > > een this handshape written both ways=2C and I feel both are readable=2C bec= > > ause when the handshape is parallel to the floor=2C there is the small spac= > > e or break at the fingers to tell us that=2C and the black back of the hand= > > tells us that we are viewing the back of the hand parallel to the floor. S= > > o either handshape in the attached diagram can be read. But the writing of = > > the fingers directed down seems logical and the most visual for me...and I = > > tend to write it that way. Like in the sign for MOVEMENT attached. Finger = > > direction is important for reading signs quickly because meaning is held in= > > the finger direction...so writing it as close to the way it looks in real = > > life is important: > >=3B > > > = > > > > --_5be3a1f1-eba4-4790-8288-53ed1fd8c9a5_-- > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of SW-L Digest - 3 Jul 2010 to 5 Jul 2010 (#2010-69) > > ******************************************************** > > > >