SignWriting List
February 24, 2011

Hello Charles!
If you direct me to the photos of the handshapes you need, I can tell you if they are in the ISWA 2010 or not....right now you are using another set of symbols called the ISWA 2008- you are not using the ISWA 2010 right now -

But having said that, it is very possible that not all the handshapes you need are in the ISWA 2010 either - you will definitely have to construct some of them, and there is a way to construct hands in the ISWA 2010 - so you can do it without pixeling them yourself -

So point me to the pictures of the hands you are trying to write - We hope to have the ISWA 2010 ready for use in about a month - but I cannot add any new symbols to the ISWA 2010 - we will construct them with the ISWA 2010 -

Val ;-)


On Feb 24, 2011, at 10:22 AM, Charles Butler wrote:

Steve and Val,
Any hope of the Ethiopian characters in ISWA 2010? I'd be happy to pixel them myself if I had to.  Right now, at least three of therm are not in the ISWA 2010 which will mean construction if they have any rotations.  I'm going through the Ethiopian dictionary over the next week or two.


From: Steve Slevinski <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Thu, February 24, 2011 1:16:52 PM
Subject: Re: SVG is now available in SignPuddle for individual signs

Hi Val,

The SVG is using the ISWA 2010. The link was created using the conversion routines for SignPuddle 1.6. Please let me know if you find any errors.

The data uses the Cartesian SignWriting markup with proposed Unicode characters. The data is compatible with a much smaller (2 to 6 times smaller) ASCII markup called Kartesian SignWriting which uses symbol keys instead of the proposed Unicode characters.

The data is based on the ISWA 2010 symbols. Four different strings are important to know for each symbol.

The first symbol of the ISWA 2010 has the symbol key "S100-0-0". The BSW string expands the key to create: 100-38c-392. This converts to proposed Unicode: 𝠀𝪌𝪒. This is encoded in URL links using UTF-8 as %F0%9D%A0%80%F0%9D%AA%8C%F0%9D%AA%92.

All of the following links are equivalent:𝠀𝪌𝪒

If we can get a symbol font working for the proposed Unicode characters, we would see the symbol image rather than the proposed Unicode string of 𝠀𝪌𝪒 and maybe even %F0%9D%A0%80%F0%9D%AA%8C%F0%9D%AA%92.

For sanity and easy of use, I prefer working with the symbol key, such as "S-100-0-0". The last 2 digits can be thought of as individual rotary dials. The second to last has a dial from 0 to 5. The last digit has a dial from 0 to 9 then a, b, c, d, e and f.

The first symbol in base 100

Rotated symbol in base 100

The last symbol in base 100

The day for the ISWA 2010 in SignPuddle approaches quickly. I'm hoping for a smooth transition and I'm looking forward to leveraging the new data formats.