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Hi Alan, I haven't looked at the BSW Reference in quite a while. Thanks for linking to it. Through the latest changes, I haven't gotten around to updating a similar reference for the latest developments. Although this is on the short list. I'll get to it soon. The closest page in SignPuddle 1.6 is the data format page. http://signbank.org/signpuddle1.6/dataformat.php?ui=1&sgn=5&ksw=M18x29S14c20n19xn29S271063xn11%20M18x33S1870an11x15S18701n18xn10S205008xn4S2e7340xn32%20S38800n36xn4 For any sign or sign text, press the copy button and scroll down to the "Other Options" section. The Data Format button will open the above page. If you pick markup "Full" and symbol "Image", you'll get a detailed XML of what the string contains. To find the ISWA HTML Reference page for a symbol, you'll need to know the symbol key. In the KSW string, all symbol keys start with "S". The first 3 characters, after the S, represent the symbol base. You can use the symbol base in the HTML Reference. In the above KSW string, the first symbol key is "S14c20". The base for this symbol key is "14c". You can access the reference page for this base through HTML. http://www.signbank.org/iswa/14c Then scroll down to the HTML page. Of you can access the HTML page directly with a longer link: http://www.signbank.org/iswa/14c/14c_bs.html Hope that helps, -Steve