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November 12, 2011

Hello Madson, and Charles, and everyone -

Thank you for this message and for the attached photos and symbols. I am very happy that SignWriting is taught as a part of the course “Letras Libras”, Universidade Federal de Santa Catarina". I am happy also to know that you have been using SignWriting for two years, and that you have created a study group in Minas Gerais - congratulations to you all as well, and please send my personal best wishes to all of your participants…

Someday, maybe your group can try to write an email in SignWriting, using SignPuddle for Brazil, sending it to our SignWriting List? That will be fun to read…. Are you entering signs and documents into the Brazilian SignPuddle online? I hope in time, your group can do that. It is free and always online. Each user can register a user name and password by opening the dictionary or literature files, and to the left there are a bunch of buttons…scroll down and choose Register to create your username and password. Then choose Login each time you work, so you get all the features:

Brazilian SignPuddle

Now, regarding the many handshapes you list in your message….I included in the ISWA 2010 tiny symbol pieces, like individual finger lines, dots etc, so you can construct hand symbols, when you cannot find the hand symbol you need already pre-constructed for you… So I am happy to see that you are constructing the hand symbols you need and it looks like you understand the principles of the system well -

I will comment on each one of them separately, since they are all interesting… but please go ahead and use the symbols as you see fit. In SignPuddle, we hope someday to have a way to store your own "constructed symbols", so you can access them easily - right now you have to construct them each time you write with them -

So thank you for this message and I hope to analyze each symbol one by one -

I am sorry I am always running behind - I have good intentions to answer everyone immediately and then "life" gets in the way (smile), but I am here and eager for the discussions - smile -

More in time,,,smile...

Val ;-)


On Nov 12, 2011, at 9:50 AM, Madson Barreto wrote:

Dear Valerie Sutton and all members of list,
My name is Madson Barreto, I am translator-interpreter of Brazilian Sign Language (LSB/Libras) teen years ago. My wife is deaf, teacher of LSB. I’m student of the course “Letras Libras”, Universidade Federal de Santa Catarina. This course explore the Brazilian Sign Language, linguistic and focus on translation and interpretation of LSB for Brazilian Portuguese language. We know the SignWriting two years ago and since then we have researched this wonderful system of writing.
The last year, I created a Group for the Study of SignWriting here in state of Minas Gerais at my university. This group investigates the SignWriting. Our desire is that SignWriting is known for the deaf community because the system records with precise the Sign Languages.Congratulations to you and all researchs for the excellent work and research conducted on behalf of deaf communities around the world.
Please look these pictures of handshapes. Note that for each one these we have a suggestion of writing in others handshapes.
- The picture “1” is the union of 01-01-007 (ISWA code) and 01-06-019;
- The picture “2” rememb me 01-08-018;
- The picture “4” is the union of handshapes 01-01-003 and 01-05-008. It seems with 01-01-003.
- The picture “5” is the union of 01-06-013 [ I ] and 01-10-004 [A]. The handshape “5” is very alike to the 01-06-021 [Y]. Here in Brazil usually use it but it is very seems with 01-06-021 [Y]. I see that many people use it in dactylology (spelling) 01-10-004 for [A] and 01-09-019 for [G]. The handshape 01-06-021 is a different picture of “5”.
We intent include the handshape 1,2,3,4 and 5 them in ISWA and disclose this here in Brazil for use of the 01-09-019 and 01-10-004, stop using 01-09-018 and 01-10-003 because they cause confusion in the writing of handshape “5”.
Eagerly await your reply,
Madson and Raquel Barreto


Val ;-)

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