Hi Madson, looking at your signs I had to smile. Sometimes you write a sign with this very fast rotation movement – the man trying to open a door with your key should get a problem – smile Perhaps you want to indicate a rotation movement back forth back at normal speed – not as if shaking your hands dry ... ? Stefan _____ Von: SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Im Auftrag von Madson Barreto Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. März 2012 18:55 An: [log in to unmask] Betreff: Re: Movement of the wrist/ Rotation Symbols Hello Ingvild, Valerie and everyone, Valerie, we know the "SignSpelling Rule" and we have reflected much about them. We agree with Ingvild to use the symbols for "wrist movements" near the wrist to facilitate their assimilation. We believe the line pulse demarcate the location of this symbol, so we wrote the signs that way. As for the symbols "Rotation Symbols," we saw the "SignSpelling Rule" for them too. Before seeing these rules (last year), we realized that positions them in place of the arm (hand below) facilitates the reading of the sign. Let me explain: We believe that several of these symbols should be placed under the hand, because the lines (single and double) represent the arm. In some cases, however, "Rotation symbols" should be written above or below the hand for movement is forward or backward. See the examples in Libras: <https://mail.google.com/mail/ca/?ui=2&ik=3306d447ef&view=att&th=135f365a391 92eef&attid=0.1&disp=inline&safe=1&zw> Social, sociedade - social, society.png Social, sociedade - social, society <https://mail.google.com/mail/ca/?ui=2&ik=3306d447ef&view=att&th=135f365a391 92eef&attid=0.2&disp=inline&safe=1&zw> Chave - key.png Chave - key <https://mail.google.com/mail/ca/?ui=2&ik=3306d447ef&view=att&th=135f365a391 92eef&attid=0.3&disp=inline&safe=1&zw> Árvore - tree.png Árvore - tree <https://mail.google.com/mail/ca/?ui=2&ik=3306d447ef&view=att&th=135f365a391 92eef&attid=0.4&disp=inline&safe=1&zw> Aplaudir - applaud.png Aplaudir - applaud <https://mail.google.com/mail/ca/?ui=2&ik=3306d447ef&view=att&th=135f365a391 92eef&attid=0.5&disp=inline&safe=1&zw> Família - family.png Família - family <https://mail.google.com/mail/ca/?ui=2&ik=3306d447ef&view=att&th=135f365a391 92eef&attid=0.6&disp=inline&safe=1&zw> Porto alegre (RS) - City.png Porto alegre (RS) - City <https://mail.google.com/mail/ca/?ui=2&ik=3306d447ef&view=att&th=135f365a391 92eef&attid=0.7&disp=inline&safe=1&zw> Dólar - dollar.png Dólar - dollar <https://mail.google.com/mail/ca/?ui=2&ik=3306d447ef&view=att&th=135f365a391 92eef&attid=0.8&disp=inline&safe=1&zw> Prato, pizza - Dish, pizza.png Prato, pizza - Dish, pizza <https://mail.google.com/mail/ca/?ui=2&ik=3306d447ef&view=att&th=135f365a391 92eef&attid=0.9&disp=inline&safe=1&zw> Sócio - partner.png Sócio - partner <https://mail.google.com/mail/ca/?ui=2&ik=3306d447ef&view=att&th=135f365a391 92eef&attid=0.10&disp=inline&safe=1&zw> Academia - academy.png Academia - academy <https://mail.google.com/mail/ca/?ui=2&ik=3306d447ef&view=att&th=135f365a391 92eef&attid=0.11&disp=inline&safe=1&zw> Tempo - time (weather).png Tempo - time (weather) <https://mail.google.com/mail/ca/?ui=2&ik=3306d447ef&view=att&th=135f365a391 92eef&attid=0.12&disp=inline&safe=1&zw> Congresso - congress.png Congresso - congress <https://mail.google.com/mail/ca/?ui=2&ik=3306d447ef&view=att&th=135f365a391 92eef&attid=0.13&disp=inline&safe=1&zw> Lhama - llama.png Lhama - llama <https://mail.google.com/mail/ca/?ui=2&ik=3306d447ef&view=att&th=135f365a391 92eef&attid=0.14&disp=inline&safe=1&zw> Livro - book.png Livro - book <https://mail.google.com/mail/ca/?ui=2&ik=3306d447ef&view=att&th=135f365a391 92eef&attid=0.15&disp=inline&safe=1&zw> Trair - betray.png Trair - betray <https://mail.google.com/mail/ca/?ui=2&ik=3306d447ef&view=att&th=135f365a391 92eef&attid=0.16&disp=inline&safe=1&zw> Mais ou menos - more or less.png Mais ou menos - more or less <https://mail.google.com/mail/ca/?ui=2&ik=3306d447ef&view=att&th=135f365a391 92eef&attid=0.17&disp=inline&safe=1&zw> Quebrar - break.png Quebrar - break <https://mail.google.com/mail/ca/?ui=2&ik=3306d447ef&view=att&th=135f365a391 92eef&attid=0.18&disp=inline&safe=1&zw> Interpretar - interpret.png Interpretar - interpret <https://mail.google.com/mail/ca/?ui=2&ik=3306d447ef&view=att&th=135f365a391 92eef&attid=0.19&disp=inline&safe=1&zw> Não ter - not have.png Não ter - not have <https://mail.google.com/mail/ca/?ui=2&ik=3306d447ef&view=att&th=135f365a391 92eef&attid=0.20&disp=inline&safe=1&zw> Rir - laugh.png Rir - laugh Madson and Raquel Barreto