On Jun 18, 2012, at 10:18 AM, "Valerie Sutton" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

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June 18, 2012

On Jun 18, 2012, at 9:19 AM, Stefan Wöhrmann wrote:
Of course there are other signs in sign languages that ask for mouth-movements and facial expressions that are not associated with spoken language but with mimic.

Hi Stefan - Yes, this is why I think it would be wonderful if Rafaela could show us a video clip of the mouth movements, or perhaps Adam can show us through video how he interpreted the mouth and air movement for starting a motorcycle…

Adam's sign has nothing to do with any spoken language, as you say above,but  with "mimic"…I do not know the linguistic term for mouth movements that are connected with Deaf storytelling…but anyway, Adam showed me the mouth movement in person, and the lips vibrate and push air out…to the point where the saliva is almost spraying out of the mouth, showing the feeling of the sound of a motorcycle engine starting…but the mouth and lips never open - they remain touching each other -

So we need to see a video ;-)) 

Val ;-)