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SignWriting List July 28, 2012 Hi Maria and Charles - Yes, Charles is correct. Using the Symbol Frequency feature in SignPuddle Online is an excellent way to find all of the symbols used to write the signs in that specific database. For example, imagine you are searching for all of the handshapes used in American Sign Language. 1. Go to the ASL SignPuddle dictionary: ASL SignPuddle Dictionary http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/index.php?ui=1&sgn=4 2. Click on Symbol Frequency. 3. Click on the Hands category. 4. Click on the SymbolGroup you want. 5. Notice in that group, which symbols have numbers under them, and which ones are grey? 6. The grey symbols are symbols not used in writing ASL signs in the ASL dictionary puddle. 7. The numbers under the symbols shows how many times that symbol was used to write signs in this database… See attached - ------- On Jul 27, 2012, at 10:38 PM, Charles Butler wrote: > The fastest way to do that is to look at "symbol frequency" in any of the SignPuddles. This would give you the current research on the minimal pairs of a language. For example, one of the earlier publications of LIBRAS had determined a certain number of handshapes (around 96), then people began putting in the variants from Sao Paulo, Rio de Janeiro, and Rio Grande de Sul and the number expanded. Each day we've gotten a few more handshapes. When I was there in 2000, there were two handshapes, for example, using the ring finger and the thumb in contact, "droga" and "noiva", which depend on where the thumb is placed. > > Charles Butler > [log in to unmask] > 240-764-5748 > Clear writing moves business forward. > From: MARIA GALEA <[log in to unmask]> > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 11:34 PM > Subject: An alphabet for a specific sign language from the ISWA 2010 > > Dear all, > > Me again with one more question.. > > Has anyone out there studied the alphabet of his/her sign language- that > is has anyone derived a smaller amount of symbols from the ISWA 2010, as > the significant symbols (an alphabet) for writing a specific language e.g. > ASL, BSL, Norwegian Sign Language, German sign language etc? > > If you know of any such work could you direct me to it please. > > If you have carried it out would love to include and refer to your work in > my dissertation. > > Once again I truly appreciate ANY feedback whatsoever, > > Thanks > Maria > > > ----- Val ;-) Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator [log in to unmask] Post Messages to the SignWriting List: [log in to unmask] SignWriting List Archives & Home Page http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1 SignWriting Read & Write Sign Languages http://www.SignWriting.org SignPuddle Online Write SignWriting in the Clouds! Documents, Dictionaries, SignMail http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle SignWriting Wiki Wiki-style Articles in Sign Languages http://www.signbank.org/wiki SignWriting List Technical Support: Ask questions... http://www.SignWriting.org/forums/swlist SignWriting Literature Project Writing Literature in Sign Languages http://www.SignWriting.org/literature SignWriting Encyclopedia Projects Writing Encyclopedias in Sign Languages http://www.SignWriting.org/encyclopedia SignWriting Sponsors Forum Help Educational Non-Profit Organization http://www.SignWriting.org/forums/sponsors SignWriting Shop Books, DVDs, Lessons, Services http://www.SignWriting.org/shop Deaf Action Committee For SignWriting Center For Sutton Movement Writing a US educational nonprofit organization PO Box 517, La Jolla, CA, 92038, USA Tel: 858-456-0098 Skype: valeriesutton SignWriting on Twitter http://twitter.com/signwriting SignWriting on YouTube http://youtube.com/signwriting SignWriting on Facebook http://facebook.com/SignWriting