Hi Steve, Adam and Charles, I see your point - and agree fully. If creating new symbols is a means of empowerment and ownership of the writing system - then that over-rides all other theoretical issues. In fact Florian Coulmas, who has written extensively about writing systems, has actually stressed and couldn't underline enough the importance of a community's acceptance of a writing system - without that its all in vain. Thank you for bringing this to our attention - and I'm glad that is your priority - as it makes perfect sense. Thank you Charles for your Ethiopian example - I actually looked into a little. The symbol frequency for the Dictionary is really interesting - as it marks the use of symbols not used in the other Puddles I have looked at. I also found an interesting article about the fingerspelling system of Ethiopian sign language. Though I still have to download it and read it eventually. Thank you for bringing this sign language to my attention. Maria > Hi Adam & Maria, > > There are a huge amount of handshapes in the ISWA 2010. No doubt. I can > agree that there's has to be something close enough. > > But if a group of writers feels that they need a new handshape for their > language, I don't feel like I have the right to tell them no. I think it > is a matter of respect and empowerment. > > If we add a new handshape, it should be essential with multiple examples > of use. A unique handshape needed for a single sign probably doesn't > need to be added. > > I think it would be best to stay with the existing handshapes, but my > gut keeps telling me that the writer's needs and pride in their language > may take precedence. > > That's why I talked with Val about the possibility of new handshapes. > We agreed that we do not have the time to do this work ourselves, but if > a group was willing to follow the guidelines and do the work themselves, > we could be able to accommodate them with a minimum amount of disruption. > > Regards, > -Steve > >