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True, the tense mark should be on both to be true to the person's intent. Sigh. I'll do it later. Charles Butler [log in to unmask] 240-764-5748 Clear writing moves business forward. --- On Sat, 2/23/13, Adam Frost <[log in to unmask]> wrote: From: Adam Frost <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: AW: HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU VALERIE To: [log in to unmask] Date: Saturday, February 23, 2013, 6:14 PM It doesn't really bother me if the dynamics are there or not. If you are going to put the < on both hands, then you should also put ~ on both as well. But at least the hands are doable now. :-) Adam On Feb 23, 2013, at 3:02 PM, Charles Butler wrote: Sometimes you can't see it for the trees. I don't think that one strictly needs the < but it somehow makes them feel more lively. Charles Butler [log in to unmask] 240-764-5748 Clear writing moves business forward. --- On Sat, 2/23/13, Adam Frost <[log in to unmask]> wrote: From: Adam Frost <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: AW: HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU VALERIE To: [log in to unmask] Date: Saturday, February 23, 2013, 11:01 AM Look at the 5 hands. They should be switched. Adam On Feb 23, 2013, at 7:57 AM, "Charles Butler" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: Is not the double articulation on the < sufficient? I could read it. Or maybe I was intuiting what it was saying. Should the < have been on both hands? Charles Butler [log in to unmask] 240-764-5748 Clear writing moves business forward. --- On Sat, 2/23/13, Adam Frost <[log in to unmask]> wrote: From: Adam Frost <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: AW: HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU VALERIE To: [log in to unmask] Date: Saturday, February 23, 2013, 10:47 AM It would be the sign MANY. ;-) Adam On Feb 23, 2013, at 5:32 AM, "Charles Butler" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: I have lost track of what I actually loaded. Here are the two pieces of my email. What sign are you referring to? They were all taken off of SignPuddle. Which one needs to be fixed? Charles Butler [log in to unmask] 240-764-5748 Clear writing moves business forward. --- On Fri, 2/22/13, Adam Frost <[log in to unmask]> wrote: From: Adam Frost <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: AW: HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU VALERIE To: [log in to unmask] Date: Friday, February 22, 2013, 3:41 PM And wouldn't the 5 hand be mirrored? Adam On Feb 22, 2013, at 12:37 PM, "Charles Butler" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: I think the card got transmitted wrong. You are right that the last sign with what you have is MANY. The second column HAD more, love Charles Charles Butler [log in to unmask] 240-764-5748 Clear writing moves business forward. --- On Fri, 2/22/13, Stefan Wöhrmann <[log in to unmask]> wrote: From: Stefan Wöhrmann <[log in to unmask]> Subject: AW: HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU VALERIE To: [log in to unmask] Date: Friday, February 22, 2013, 2:02 PM Hi Charles – what an interesting sign for „birthday“ pulling the ear downwards twice – Which signlanguage is this taken from? You may want to mirror each five-hand in the last sign - smile Does it mean “more”? All best Stefan Von: SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Im Auftrag von Charles Butler Gesendet: Freitag, 22. Februar 2013 19:28 An: [log in to unmask] Betreff: Re: HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU VALERIE Here you go. Charles Butler [log in to unmask] 240-764-5748 Clear writing moves business forward. --- On Fri, 2/22/13, Valerie Sutton <[log in to unmask]> wrote: From: Valerie Sutton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU VALERIE To: [log in to unmask] Date: Friday, February 22, 2013, 12:10 PM SignWriting List February 22, 2013 Hello Tini! Yes, time certainly does fly! Who would have thought, back in Copenhagen in a dance studio in the 1970's when we first met, that you and I would be communicating by email so many years later - I am now age 62 …imagine that…and now you use SignWriting as well as DanceWriting... Thank you for your hugs - hugs back! Val ;-) --------- On Feb 22, 2013, at 5:09 PM, Pel Tini <[log in to unmask]> wrote: Wow, Stefran is right, time sure flies Have a wonderful day Valerie and as Stefan says, imagine all your thankful SW. friends around you. There may not be room in your district for all of them. Thank you Valerie for everything. with love and a bigggggg huggggg. Henk and Tini. On 2013-02-22, at 4:40 AM, Stefan Wöhrmann wrote: Hello Valerie, – it is time again (already!!!) to send my greeting card. Especially created for this special event!! Look at this Great Tit – isn`t it a cute smile ...? – Just imagine to have a long table with lots of SW-friends from all over the world. You make us feel happy! Thank you so much for sharing your invention with us – and the willingness to discuss it. Happy birthday and all the best! Take care - Thanks so much for all what you are doing for us. Stefan ;-) <happy birthday Valerie Sutton 2013.jpg> <happybirthday2.png><happybirthday1.png>