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Well – that is the very reason that I asked for this different spelling ;-) All best Stefan _____ Von: SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Im Auftrag von Erika Hoffmann-Dilloway Gesendet: Montag, 1. April 2013 22:43 An: [log in to unmask] Betreff: Re: Sao Paulo (variant) I see what you mean. When I first read that I think of that as the left hand. Though when I go ahead and sign it with my right I see how it makes sense... On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Charles Butler <[log in to unmask]> wrote: For Erica. Here is a variation on Sao Paulo. It doesn't feel right to me, but logically this is how one would write the P hand middle finger on the right hand touching the right temple. Other rotations of the P hand give one some positions that don't look right if one is working with two handed signs as the two hands don't touch when they should or the fingers don't touch the face where they need to. <http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?text=M27x18S14008n13xn 54S30007n18xn17S206005xn28&pad=10&name=Sao%20Paulo%20%282%29> Sao Paulo Here is my variation, which follows the Parkhurst convention, for Perfect. Sometimes you just have to write what feels right. <http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?text=M39x38S1402010x7S 14008n38xn37S2e408n27x5S26500n11xn11S20500n6xn28S140206xn34&pad=10&name=perf ect%20%283%29> Charles Butler [log in to unmask] 240-764-5748 Clear writing moves business forward. --- On Fri, 3/29/13, Claudia S. Bianchini <[log in to unmask]> wrote: From: Claudia S. Bianchini <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Signs for Cities and States - can you write the name of YOUR city and post to the List? To: [log in to unmask] Date: Friday, March 29, 2013, 9:30 AM Hello... here are my cities: Rome: where I was born Perugia: where was my university Modena: where I live when I'm not working Paris: where I've done my PhD Poitiers: where I work at university 2013/3/29 KJ Boal <[log in to unmask] <http:[log in to unmask]> > I have a few here: Red Deer (where I currently live): Which is in the province of Alberta: Edmonton, the capital of my province and the city where I was born: Leduc, where I really grew up; the city is near an international airport, so the sign looks like an airplane taking off: Calgary, the other major city in my province, technically has two possible signs. This is the old one, which isn’t used any more – and there’s a story behind that! This sign refers to spurs on cowboy boots, because Calgary’s biggest claim to fame is the internationally-renowned rodeo called the Calgary Stampede. However, Edmonton and Calgary have a MAJOR rivalry – if you’re from one city, you’re expected to hate everything about the other! In the spirit of that rivalry, the Edmontonian Deaf began joking that the sign was really related to the sign for “garbage” and the Calgary was “garbage”. The Calgarian Deaf, offended, decided to change the sign. This is what they changed it to: Personally, I’m sorry they changed it! The original sign had more character, in my opinion. But I don’t subscribe to the rivalry between the cities . . . much. (smile) Anyway, hope that’s not too many signs all at once! KJ From: SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages [mailto:[log in to unmask] <http:[log in to unmask]> ] On Behalf Of Valerie Sutton Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 3:25 PM To: [log in to unmask] <http:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Signs for Cities and States - can you write the name of YOUR city and post to the List? SignWriting List March 27, 2013 Dear SW List: Recently a Deaf guest from Ireland, Shane Gilchrist, visited us here in La Jolla, and suddenly there were Deaf friends visiting in my home, from all over San Diego! It was a lot of fun for me in particular, because I have been a bit isolated here - I learned a few signs that were new to me. One of them is the name of the city where I live, La Jolla, California. The sign for La Jolla is similar to the sign for California, except the hand stays in one place while shaking… I just wrote it in the ASL SignPuddle Dictionary: http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/canvas.php?ui=1 <http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/canvas.php?ui=1&sgn=4&sid=1995> &sgn=4&sid=1995 What is the sign for YOUR city? Val ;-) Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator [log in to unmask] <http:[log in to unmask]> Post Messages to the SignWriting List: [log in to unmask] <http:[log in to unmask]> SignWriting List Archives & Home Page http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L <http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1> &A=1 -- Claudia S. Bianchini, PhD A.T.E.R. Licence SDL-LSF @ Univ. Poitiers (France) [log in to unmask] <http:[log in to unmask]> -- Erika Hoffmann-Dilloway Assistant Professor of Anthropology Oberlin College