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Hello Charles, your sign GANGORRA I see similar movement, but probably there you need movement of the trunk. Did you constructed the movement in sign PROFUNDO? I think that the rounded part of movement shoul be written in single-line-arrow. But I am sorry, this is not the spiral I need. thank you, Honza On 17 May 2013 09:17, Honza <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Hello Charles, > > your sign GANGORRA I see similar movement, but probably there you need > movement of the trunk. > Did you constructed the movement in sign PROFUNDO > > > On 15 May 2013 13:38, Charles Butler <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> https://www.youtube.com/edit?ns=1&video_id=YoFRKW2IUNs >> >> >> >> Possible spiral down - profundo >> >> Spiral out and down >> >> >> >> Charles Butler >> [log in to unmask] >> 240-764-5748 >> Clear writing moves business forward. >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Honza <[log in to unmask]> >> *To:* [log in to unmask] >> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 15, 2013 3:19 AM >> *Subject:* Re: Elbow movement and some details >> >> Hello everyone, >> >> Val I know, there is spiral upward movement arrow, but I don't know why, >> forward spiral is not included in ISWA. >> Adam thanks for constructing spiral forward movement. >> Adam and Charles, I think your elbow movement will work for me as well, >> but I am not sure if it is clear enought, that it is not hand but elbow >> movement. >> >> Charles, please could you share movie of SeeSaw sign? Thanks. >> >> Honza >> >> >> On 14 May 2013 17:30, Valerie Sutton <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> SignWriting List >> May 14, 2013 >> >> I think your attempt looks great, Adam - >> >> It can be constructed nicely thank goodness - >> >> Val ;-) >> >> ----- >> >> >> On May 14, 2013, at 8:01 AM, Adam Frost <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> I, personally would see 1, 2, and 3 as loops because the movement is in a >> "line" or all on one plane, the wall or the floor for example. Spirals have >> a circular movement that travels rather than staying stationary. That would >> be like #4. The current ISWA does not have this same movement forward, so >> it has to be constructed. Here is my attempt. >> >> >> Would this work for you Honza? >> >> Adam >> >> On May 14, 2013, at 6:55 AM, Valerie Sutton wrote: >> >> SignWriting List >> May 14, 2013 >> >> For me, the term Spiral means a traveling circle… >> >> Here are the three Spirals in the ISWA 2010: >> >> >> >> 1. Spiral Traveling Up parallel with the Wall Plane >> 2. Spiral Traveling Forward parallel with the Floor Plane >> 3. Spiral Traveling to the Side parallel with the Floor Plane >> >> Then there is a fourth symbol: >> >> >> >> >> Other than these four symbols, you will need to write a separate Circle >> symbol and combine it with other arrows, if you want something that is >> different than these pre-composed symbols - >> >> So I am curious…what do other Spirals look like? >> >> Val ;-) >> >> -------- >> >> >> On May 14, 2013, at 12:26 AM, Honza <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> Hi Adam and Val for your comments. >> >> 1 - I mean the elbow movement you can see in attached video. >> 4 - Adam, you are right, I mean forward spiral movement, that is >> different from the movement Val shown. >> >> Thanks >> Honza >> >> >> On 13 May 2013 17:58, Adam Frost <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> Here are some replies from me below. >> >> Adam >> >> On May 13, 2013, at 6:16 AM, Honza wrote: >> >> Hello Val, >> >> I have some specific question: >> >> 1. Is there way how to write down movement of an elbow? Maybe it is >> possible to use some "neutral" arrows for that somehow. >> >> What type of movement of the elbow are you talking about? Can you show us >> what you mean? >> >> >> 1. As you know, in Puddle there are two rub symbols. One "left" and >> one "right". Is there any difference in the direction of movements? >> >> I guess in theory you could say there is a difference following the >> rotation of the curl, but most people don't really pay attention to that >> detail and only choice one. >> >> >> 1. I am not sure about using (( alternating lines. I don't see any >> way where this can be useful, due all information are included in movement >> arrows. >> >> You are absolutely correct. That is the reason that I don't usually use >> most of the timing symbols because the movement arrows already tell me that >> information, but there are some people who feel that repetition of >> information is needed and therefore use it. >> >> >> 1. Is there easy way how to write down circular+forward movement? >> >> I know that Val replied already, but are you talking about a forward >> looping movement (which would be what Val showed) or are you talking about >> a forward spiral movement? >> >> >> Thank you. >> Honza >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >