I'm grateful you made it a footer. A couple of other linguistic/language-realated lists I'm subscribe use headers and I have to scroll half-way down the page before the actual content is visible.

Being "old school" and well just old I remember when emailers showed more of the headers lines with a message than is done today. GMail only shows sender and recipient, date and time, and Subject. Apple Mail gives slightly more by default and the recipient can request more of those hidden lines to be displayed. I checked the headers line on your email and the following lines are included:
List-Help: <http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?LIST=SW-L>,
 <mailto:[log in to unmask]?body=INFO%20SW-L>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
List-Owner: <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
List-Archive: <http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?LIST=SW-L>
But I had to get GMail to show me that by using the "Show Original" option.

I have access to archives. Not only the one mentioned in the standard header or the one mentioned in your footer but the one that GMail keeps for me–I don't delete messages from this list. There is a second archive on one of my Linux machines when I was subscribed under a different email address. There might even be some earlier messages stored on an ancient neglected Windows 3.1 machine I used until 1999. ;-)


On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Valerie Sutton <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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September 27, 2013

Hello Trevor and Stefan -
Regarding the footer, or banner below, I didn't realize that some software hides those automatically - maybe that is why Kim never saw the banner on her device - It seems that it all depends on the software you are using to view your email, as to how you receive your messages…and that varies greatly from member to member -

The only reason I added this footer is that others complained that they couldn't find the SignWriting List Archives or they couldn't remember how to change their own List settings and so forth, so that is why I decided to do this…if it is a burden over time, for most of you, I can always take it away completely …let's leave it for awhile and see how it goes -

Do any of you access the Archives? We have four of them…

SignWriting List Archives
http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist

(or see the banner below) ha!

Now, I am so sorry you are having frustrations with viewing your own posts, Stefan - I am not having that problem personally and I suspect, since it is happening to you with all of the three email addresses you have on the List, that it has something more to do with how your computer or your email software is reacting the List messages - could your email be placing your posts in your Spam filter? the question is why…

Can you change email software,, Stefan? Use googlemail on the web for example to see if you can see your own posts there?

but I will telephone Valencia College today to ask them if they know what might be happening -

Thank you everyone!

Val ;-)

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On Sep 27, 2013, at 4:21 AM, Trevor Jenkins <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Haven't posted in ages, so no idea if my posts will come back to me. But then I use GMail and that has always threaded up my messages sent to the list with messages sent from the list.

GMail also hides the footer by default letting me look at it when I want/need to. What is appended now looks just the same as it always did.


On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 12:02 AM, Stefan Wöhrmann <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Hi Valerie,

I`m sorry - but I don´t get the copies of my own postings.
I will send this message from another as well and let us see what happens.

Stefan

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