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Hi Maureen, thank you for your answer ... I understand .. and it is as you explain ... Perhaps I do not belong to this group “Older people with artritus prefer to tuck the Thumb in and have the 4 Fingers straight.. ... no artritus ..so far ... smile ... and “older people” starting at what age ..smile No ..the reason for my message has been a SignWriting related interest. I am eager to be able to write whatever I see ... and in this case I do not discuss a way of how to sign ... but ... if I see somebody signing “NINE” this way I would like to write it in SignWriting ... My suggestion would be to construct it this way .. if there is not the given symbol in our symbols set .... but maybe it is and I only cannot find it ...or Valerie may suggest a second (smile) way to write it? All best Stefan _____ Von: SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Im Auftrag von Maureen Doyle Gesendet: Sonntag, 29. September 2013 13:48 An: [log in to unmask] Betreff: Re: hand shape BSL 9 Hi Stefan. That SW is fine You may have found different ways of doing "9" as there are different signs for 9 depending on the area.. Older people with artritus prefer to tuck the Thumb in and have the 4 Fingers straight.. We had a member who didnt have a thumb so this was their way for 9. The easiest (9) for children is Just holding up their hands and leaving the Right Thumb tucked in.. Hope this helps.. <http://graphics.hotmail.com/emsmiled.gif> <http://graphics.hotmail.com/emthup.gif> Maureen _____ Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 12:46:35 +0200 From: [log in to unmask] Subject: hand shape BSL 9 To: [log in to unmask] Hi Valerie, Adam, Maureen and friends, for some hours I am busy to look at BSL signs... There are various online-video – tutorials that show a variety of how to sign the numbers ...;-)) Just a question ... do we have in the actual symbol set the hand shape some of the signers prefer for signing “nine” Flat-hand ... or five-hand but pinkey bent toward palm ( personally I have problems to perform this hand shape without to much effort) What do you think about my attempt to construct this hand shape? All best Stefan ________________________________________________ SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator [log in to unmask] Post Messages to the SignWriting List: [log in to unmask] SignWriting List Archives & Home Page http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1 ________________________________________________ SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator [log in to unmask] Post Messages to the SignWriting List: [log in to unmask] SignWriting List Archives & Home Page http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1 ________________________________________________ SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator [log in to unmask] Post Messages to the SignWriting List: [log in to unmask] SignWriting List Archives & Home Page http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1