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Hi Charles, I look at the first sign .. Well I do not know what should be done .. I did not read any description or could not find any video... ;-( Nevertheless .... it is almost impossible to perform this ... back of hands toward the body moving down ???? ouch! What do you think? Stefan _____ Von: SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Im Auftrag von Charles Butler Gesendet: Freitag, 8. November 2013 03:52 An: [log in to unmask] Betreff: Re: How can we write ...? Sign first - dystrophy. From your description, to show the fingers in the position you want, I find the edge-on position the easiest to understand. This has the palm from the side so the lower half is black with the upper white. In addition, the description doesn't have the hands touch so they need to have separate paths. <http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?text=M58x51S37606n58xn 46S16c40n47xn30S20800n49xn50S18146n7xn1S1814e29x0S22b0437x21S22b143x18&pad=1 0&name=dystrophy> Sign second - your question was how to show movement forward while keeping the hand in place, sort of like a hinge. <http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?text=M43x60S2ff00n18xn 17S1ec0en9x37S2f900n6x24S2c30017x18&pad=10&name=star> one, the right hand was backward. the thumb is the shorter hook. To show that the hand remains in contact, use the pressure ~ mark. This holds the hand in place while it rotates forward. Here is an example from Brazilian sign language, the sign for jello (gelatino) where the hand trembles. <http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?text=M23x76S2050013x40 S15612n12x41S2f700n8x13S2f90011x53S36100n18xn36S30350n18x25S30354n8x25S30350 4x26S15a16n18x64&pad=10&name=gelatina> Note that both hands are showed edge on so that it doesn't get confusing for the reader. The top hand touches the bottom hand, and presses on the bottom hand. There is movement but it is of the fingers (the little arrows) the combination of * and ~ ensures that the hands remain in contact and pressing. Charles Butler [log in to unmask] 240-764-5748 Clear writing moves business forward. _____ From: Edi Strouhal <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2013 7:34 AM Subject: How can we write ...? Hello! First: in attach I send You questions concerned for writing a sign in SZJ (Slovenian sign language). Second: Is it possible to make a fonts for Slovenian sign alphabet? Our alphabet is some different from ASL. Our deaf donīt understand ASL alphabet at all. In attach I send you SLOVENIAN ALPHABET. This my question is only for information. Thank you for your advice and help. Greetings from sunshine Ljubljana. Edi. ________________________________________________ SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator [log in to unmask] Post Messages to the SignWriting List: [log in to unmask] SignWriting List Archives & Home Page http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L <http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1> &A=1 ________________________________________________ SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator [log in to unmask] Post Messages to the SignWriting List: [log in to unmask] SignWriting List Archives & Home Page http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1 ________________________________________________ SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator [log in to unmask] Post Messages to the SignWriting List: [log in to unmask] SignWriting List Archives & Home Page http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1