Hi Adam and Jonathan. What Jonathan and I are running up against is Sign-Symbol-Sequence by Syllable, so, for example with a sign like Deaf (with face contact) and Deaf (without face contact), I put the first and second positions of the face when there are no contacts but the hand is near the space BEFORE the writing where there is actual contact on the head. The only way to order them in a dictionary (for me) is to have distinct syllables and spellings within syllables. So that first-syllable INDEX HAND-NEAR EAR ARC-(second syllable)-NEAR MOUTH ARC comes before (first syllable) HAND-EAR ARC-CONTACT-(second syllable)EAR-MOUTH-CONTACT. We are trying to order positions on the Head in relation to contacts with the Head in syllables. Trying to get a fixed order of relation to one part of a syllable to the next part. Charles Butler [log in to unmask] 240-764-5748 Clear writing moves business forward. ________________________________ From: Adam Frost <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 9:58 AM Subject: Re: Examples of Syllable 4: Detailed Sorting I’m not sure what you mean by 1-3. Do you mean the location on the hand? And what do you mean by Top-Down for the Face? As for the neck, I found this sign with SignSpelling Sequence. http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/searchword.php?ui=1&sgn=4&sid=9098 For the shoulder, I found this sign with SignSpelling Sequence. http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/searchword.php?ui=1&sgn=4&sid=7005 Adam On Sep 8, 2014, at 5:56 AM, Jonathan Duncan <[log in to unmask]> wrote: Hi, Does anybody have any SignSequence examples for Syllable 4: Detailed Sorting 1. Location Dominant Hand 2. Location Non-Dominant Hand 4. Face (Top-Down) 5. Neck 6. Shoulder I´ve looked through the sign spelling sequences for the ASL and only found examples for 3. Head 7. Torso 8. Hips & Legs Thanks, -- email: [log in to unmask] [log in to unmask] Cel Honduras: (504)3141-1171 Tel USA: (347)875-8442 Skype: yojoduncan SignWriter Studio ________________________________________________ SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator [log in to unmask] Post Messages to the SignWriting List: [log in to unmask] SignWriting List Archives & Home Page http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1 ________________________________________________ SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator [log in to unmask] Post Messages to the SignWriting List: [log in to unmask] SignWriting List Archives & Home Page http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1 ________________________________________________ SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator [log in to unmask] Post Messages to the SignWriting List: [log in to unmask] SignWriting List Archives & Home Page http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1