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Yes, it is possible to move down a little.

Now that I think of it, it is even possible to never lose contact thus making the contact a rub rather than a brush. So many options and possibilities. Ha!

I just exploring for a good balance between ease in reading and ease in writing. ;-)


Adam

> On Aug 8, 2019, at 2:04 PM, Valerie Sutton <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> but Adam - if you prefer to eliminate the second position and you feel it can be read, that is fine -
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> In this writing, maybe the right hand only moves a little bit down, not a lot?
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> <Screen Shot 2019-08-08 at 2.01.47 PM.png>
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>> On Aug 8, 2019, at 1:56 PM, Valerie Sutton <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
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>> SignWriting List
>> August 8, 2019
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>> Hi Adam and SW List members -
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>> Hmmmm ;-)
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>> Regarding the ASL sign for BOTH - Each example is readable... and thank you, Adam, and cw and writers in SignWriter Java, for writing this sign.
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>> There are 2 writing rules or guidelines that I try to follow:
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>> 1. "First, write the Position of Contact" (page 194-195 in the Lessons in SignWriting Textbook)
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>> 2. "Every sign has a center" (page 196 and continues for some pages....)
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>> So in the sign for BOTH, the way I interpret it, there are 2 Positions of Contact - the beginning position and the ending position, since the fingers came together and contacted each other in the ending position... that is why I choose to write the second position - I think it is easier for the reader - no guessng
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>> So based on Adam's most recent writing, I have included my suggestion:
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>> <BOTH.png>
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>>> On Aug 8, 2019, at 10:30 AM, Adam Frost <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
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>>> Here’s another question. ;-)
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>>> I have been struggling with spelling BOTH. Looking in SignPuddle, I found a couple of spellings. The first is from “cw”, and the second was copied from SignWriter Java.
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>>> In 2013, I rewrote these two. Looking at it now, I don’t think it is very readable, although it is more compact.
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>>> I just now decided to rewrite it now. I know it uses another advance symbol, but is it readable if you know what the symbols mean?
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>>> <namesign.png>
>>> Adam
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