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Well, I don't know sign language or how to arrange SignWriting!

John

On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 3:57 PM Jonathan Duncan <
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> Hi John,
>
>     The SignPuddle is a public dictionnary you can add it yourself here.
>
> https://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/signmaker.php?ui=1&sgn=4
>
> Jonathan
> On 8/20/2020 4:18 AM, John Carlson wrote:
>
> I found this:   https://www.signingsavvy.com/sign/MOMENT   .  Can this be
> added to SignWriting?
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
>
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 5:03 AM John Carlson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> I ran into a slight problem translating Natural Semantic Metalanguage
>> English exponents.
>>
>> For example, "moment" and "anymore" wouldn't translate.
>>
>>
>> http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/translate.php?ui=1&sgn=4&build=moment&action=translate
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/translate.php?ui=1&sgn=4&build=anymore&action=translate
>> <http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/translate.php?ui=1&sgn=4&build=moment&action=translate>
>>
>> Gave a symbol that I associate with failure to find what it was looking
>> for.
>>
>> Thanks for any assistance!
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 12:31 PM Valerie Sutton <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> SignWriting List
>>> October 29, 2019
>>>
>>> Hi John -
>>> This sounds very interesting. This could possibly be a project for an MA
>>> degree or Ph.D dissertation in animation or software development. Some of
>>> the excellent programs that are used today in the SignWriting world stem
>>> from bright enthusiastic students who had good ideas and tested their ideas
>>> while studying at a university. And very interesting when they post
>>> announcements or questions here on the list.
>>>
>>> So keep us informed if you find others who want to work on this project.
>>>
>>> By the way, if you are having trouble seeing on computers, you are right
>>> there are larger fonts, and you can also access features developed for
>>> people with sight impairment. Under "Accessibility" on some computers, you
>>> can turn your screen black and the letters can become white or yellow, and
>>> that can help sometimes too. I use that occasionally. Recently the Mac has
>>> a new OS 10.14.6 called "Mojave" and it has a new feature where your entire
>>> screen can be black and all type is white - it is rather exciting to work
>>> that way and easier on our eyes sometimes.
>>>
>>> All the best - Val ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 5:47 PM John Carlson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello All,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My goal is to create a way to use computers which does not depend on
>>>> reading very small symbols that ache my head or my eyes. Perhaps I should
>>>> use larger fonts or (yuck) glasses.  But to distract from the ache in my
>>>> head, I try to come up with a solution that is beyond the sedentary
>>>> lifestyle.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Some of us have worked on using Natural Semantic Metalanguage (NSM) for
>>>> translation.  Others have studied 3D ontologies.   Others have studied
>>>> humanoid modelling and animation. What I would like to work on in addition,
>>>> is the Fluid Movement Semantic Metalanguage (FMSM) problem as well, if not
>>>> solved by Valerie Sutton in her MovementWriting and SignWriting work.
>>>> Perhaps the concept of Semantic can unify Fluid Movement (physical
>>>> linguistics) and Sign (key frame), similar to how Symbol unifies Movie and
>>>> Shape (my focus, based on PostScript, X3D/VRML and shading languages with a
>>>> hats off to Ted Nelson). I believe this would mean that we would have to
>>>> come up with Prime Shapes (in addition to Prime Semantics from NSM). I
>>>> believe these Prime Shapes can come from MovementWriting icons (or the
>>>> programs that create the icons) or from X3D/VRML ontologies. If we extend
>>>> our thinking into time, then Signs and Shapes would become animated into
>>>> Fluid Movement and Movies (possibly of hyperdimension).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What I’ve left out so far is the semantics of grouping.  Please
>>>> discuss.  I think we’re just getting to that in X3D Models in the semantics
>>>> group.
>>>>
>>>>
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