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Cherie,

Excellent analysis. Thank you!

~ AnnaGrace

On Sat, Mar 12, 2022 at 9:34 AM Cherie Wren <
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> One thing that might be helpful is to figure out what part is the sign
> itself, and what part is transition TO the sign.  So for KISSFIST the
> movement to the chin is part of the transition, and the
> kiss-and-move-forward is the sign itself.
>
> cherie
>
> On Friday, March 11, 2022, 08:37:00 PM EST, Ms. AnnaGrace <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Val,
>
> Thank you for your reply! Your feedback and the screen capture from
> SignPuddle are very helpful. Yes, I was aiming for "kissfist."
>
> I am still learning about the "grammar" of SignWriting. I now can see that
> the "up arrow" isn't necessary because it is implied. I am still studying
> the SignSpelling Guidelines and Writing Process on pages 193 to 203.
>
> I will change the spelling--I will remove the touch contact from under the
> chin.
>
> On page 164 in the textbook, in the first column, on rows 5 and 6 -- could
> you tell me the difference between these two "kisses"?  I tried to look up
> SignWords that use these symbols in SignPuddle (Search by Symbols) but none
> came up.
>
> On another note, there are two signs that I can think of right now that
> touch under the chin. I am working on signwriting them, and I will show
> them to you in my next email.
>
> Thanks again,
> AnnaGrace
>
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 6:51 PM Valerie Sutton <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> SignWriting List
> March 11, 2022
>
> Hello SignWriting List, and AnnaGrace -
>
> Thank you for the question and the writing ;-)
>
> I hope others will answer, better than I can do… It is very nice that you
> ask questions like this…it gets us thinking ;-)
>
> At first I thought your right fist was moving up and touching under your
> chin, but then I guessed you were writing KISS FIST, because I saw the kiss
> mouth position.
>
> I just looked up KISS FIST in the ASL SignPuddle and found these signs,
> written by three different writers… thank you everyone. Please see attached
> screen capture.
> So ...
>
> If you meant to write KISS-FIST, then the up-arrow is accurate but it is
> not necessary to write it. The reader will read the “Position of Contact”
> (the kiss) and then follow the movement forward.
>
> In this case, I was using knowledge of the sign to guide my reading. But
> if you meant “contacting under the chin” then I guessed wrong. Are there
> signs in ASL where the fist touches under the chin?
>
> Val ;-)
>
> -----------
>
>
> On Mar 11, 2022, at 1:42 PM, Ms. AnnaGrace <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Check my spelling -- what does this look like in sign? It's quite
> an exercise on the use of arrows, huh?
>
>
> I look forward to your comments!
> Thanks,
> AnnaGrace
>
>
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